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I think the critical point that needs to be addressed is, does CO2 cause global warming? I asked myself the question is there a correlation between CO2 and the earths temperature? I then went looking for evidence to test that hypothesis. I have found, to my satisfaction, that there is random correlation between CO2 and temperature and I didn’t have to look at a very long time period to come to that conclusion. 8000 years ago, CO2 was approximately 250 ppm and the temperature was 3°C higher. Since that time CO2 is increased to 425 ppm and the temperature has gone down. But it hasn’t been a straight line between those two periods. There was a Roman warm period followed by the dark ages which was cooler, the mediaeval warm period followed by the Little Ice Age, and we started coming out of the Little Ice Age long before humans burnt fossil fuels which adds CO2 to the atmosphere. The other question I ask, is A warmer world worse than a colder world? I live in Canada and I can tell you I’ll vote for a warmer world and I don’t want to waste a cent a futile attempt on trying to prevent, even if I could, the world from getting warmer! Another question I ask is, does an increase in CO2 enhance food production and biomass, and if it does, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Given that life on earth as we know it would be extinguished if CO2 drop below 150 ppm because plants would be starved of what it needs to grow which is CO2. But in the depth of the last Ice Age which was only 15,000 years ago there was only 180 parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere, which is very close to the point where we’re almost all plants would be extinguish.

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"Unfortunately, the independent, objective, and thorough parts are simply not true."

Many of them are, in fact, quite good and scientifically accurate. One problem is that the "Summary for Policymakers" must be, according to the IPCC charter, reviewed, line by line by the board consisting of two politicians from every one of the UN's 192 member countries. The "Summary for Policymakers" is usually all the policymakers read, and it frequently inverts the conclusions of the Scientific Assessments. Sometimes the lead author of a Scientific Assessment chapter or volume does that to the delegated sub-authors' works before they get to the IPCC board.

Frederick Seitz, former president of the National Academy of Sciences, wrote "I have never witnessed a more disturbing corruption of the peer-review process than the events which led up to this [1996] IPCC report." Why? Fifteen important passages had been deleted from the document, after having been approved by all 28 contributing authors.

Keven Trenberth inverted Chris Landsea's analysis of the time series of hurricane damages and intensities.

"This institution will be based on the illimitable freedom of the human mind. For here we are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it."

– Thomas Jefferson, commenting to William Roscoe on the founding of the University of Virginia, 27 December 1820

"It doesn't matter what is true; it only matters what people believe is true."

--- Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace

CO2 is not only beneficial, it's essential. Its atmospheric concentration has been decreasing on a nearly straight trajectory from 2,500 ppmv about 150 million years ago to 350 ppmv in 1750. It reached 180 ppmv during the last six ice ages. Below 150 ppmv, plants start to die, and then so does everything else except some bacteria, viruses, and fungi.

Where is it going? Marine plants and creatures worked out, about 150 million years ago, how to combine it with calcium to make bones, armor, and teeth. When they die they sink to the bottoms of the oceans and their bones, armor, and teeth become essentially permanent limestone.

Extrapolating the decline shows that Gaia's suicide would have been complete in about eight million years, but for the dawn of the Industrial Age, which has postponed her suicide for another eighteen million years.

If we really care about the long-term prospects for life on earth, we should be burning coal and making cement as fast as we can.

Details in my book "Where Will We Get Our Energy? A Comprehensive Quantitative System Engineering Study of the Relationship between Climate, Science, and Technology." Everything quantified. No vague handwaving. 350 bibliographic citations allow readers to verify I didn't simply make up stuff.

When EPA was preparing the Endangerment Finding, opponents of it correctly pointed out that CO2 emissions from ICEVs "hardly matter." EPA rejected that factual argument. Then they DIDN'T regulate emissions of the much more powerful greenhouse gas water vapor — generally one more molecule of water than of CO2 for each molecule of fuel burned — because — wait for it — wait for it — "It hardly matters."

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