Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Jim Schout's avatar

I agree with everything you posted, but I think you have missed the biggest consideration that no one else ever discusses. So, I don’t criticize you in any way.

Let’s just look at your first consideration, the tax credits of $24 Billion. That alone should have killed that crazy idea before it ever got off of the ground. But, politicians never, ever consider this simple fact. The time value of money is not going away. And, the time value of debt isn’t either.

That $24 Billion is now gone. It was spent. But, every dime was borrowed and it was loaned to us at an interest rate. That rate varies a little over time, but it has historically been between 2% and 6% annually. So, let’s use an average of 4% and figure that debt is not going to go away because our national debt has never gone away. But, let’s put an end date at 100 years and do a calculation of the net present worth of that $24 Billion. The math is irrefutable and the present value is $1.212 Trillion!

There we see the real problem. It has nothing to do with that paltry $24 Billion today. The problem is the idea behind borrowing at all! Borrowing to pay for a losing proposition is just stupid. No sane person would ever do such a thing.

But our Congress does it almost daily! And we elect those clowns.

Expand full comment
mark twichell's avatar

And there are intangible costs, two of which are loss of serenity and loss of community. These are specific to regions which become heavily wind industrialized. Serenity's legal definition is that quality of the environment which provides the greatest sense of wellbeing. Wind turbines are anathema to serenity. My wife and I drove yesterday to an annual event which represents our recognition of the Christmas season and its joys. With the recent addition of a third wind project, our favorite Christmas tree farm is now surrounded by towering spinning machines. Returning home with our tree required passing through the sacrifice zone. We forced ourselves not to look at miles of horizons of beautiful hills. We grew up with those horizons. They are now forever lost as nurturing visions of our once quality of life.

The loss of community is brought wherever the wind industry uses our money to bribe local officials and landowners in order to create an us vs. them dialog. An example of bribery is found in the Town of Arkwright, NY State, which we passed through with our Christmas tree yesterday. Ten Town of Arkwright public officers are leaseholders with the wind company. Public disclosure reveals that the Arkwright 10 are receiving more $$ in lease payments than the entire Town receives in the Host Community Agreement and Payment In Lieu Of Taxes. Other landowners sign so-called Good Neighbor Agreements by which they agree not to complain about loss of environmental amenities , such as quiet evenings and dark night skies. For a measly $1,000 annual bribe, these "good neighbors" sadistically torture nearby non-participating residents with loss of serenity.

John's excellent Ten Costs can be understood by everyone regardless of their distance from a wind factory. It is said that the aesthetic impact of wind turbines should be the least of our concerns. But for those of us at ground-zero, the mere sight of these things reinforces ALL of the costs, even those which can't be quantified.

Expand full comment
33 more comments...

No posts