Thank you John. As one of the authors, it was hats off to Gerry Quinn and Ronan Connolly, who managed to keep all 37 authors on board and get it past rejections and full peer review. I think the suggestion of an executive summary is good and I will raise with Gerry and hopefully publish widely.
Readers here, please understand the reason for the inevitable compromises was to get it to a mainstream medical journal. Many of the authors have been writing on Substack etc assiduously, so this article was intended to broaden our reach.
If I'm honest, I don't think I personally have the energy for a longer version but would point your readers to https://peoplesvaccineinquiry.co.uk/ and also https://northgroup.info/ where there is more. Agree we didn't cover Vitamin D and general aspects of healthy life-style etc to boost natural immunity. It always struck me that closing sports facilities was the maddest thing to do rather than using summer 2020 to try and get people more active and healthier. We did cover HCQ & Ivemectin and comparison with Remdesivir so I didn't understand your comment on Conclusion/Recommendation #4 as this was already covered in #3
Dr. Jones: I agree that your Report did actually reasonably address IVM — so I have deleted one of my comments (now only seven).
The Vitamin D matter is MUCH more than part of advocating a healthy lifestyle. The scientific studies have shown that Vitamin D is a more effective early treatment of COVID than the EUA approved drug Paxlovid! <https://c19science.info/FDA_Drug_Approvals2.htm> That is an ENORMOUSLY significant matter.
Absolutely. I have found that mentioning the downplaying of Vit D is a good discussion opener (NICE guidance still only recommends 400 units which was the bone dose and no way enough for a healthy immune system).
Also thanks for the link to your excellent drug comparison chart - I hadn't seen it before
Thank you for making us aware of that report and including the link. The report is damning, yet polite and of course, professional. I watched many caring, wonderful Drs. online explaining what was happening and recommending safe strategies prior to the injection and before YouTube pulled them off. That alone signaled to me the evil that was going to happen. Ivor Cummins (not a Dr, but a great statistician) presented graphs very early on about seasonality and how to explain excess deaths. I also heard Dr. Harvey Reisch (a contributor to this report) early on and he was another voice of knowledge and reason. I caught in August 2020 and did not panic. I knew how and who I got it from (friends). I also believed natural immunity was better than the injections and has been proven. That was the other lie they tried to "misinform" us of.
The additional information you provided aids in clarifying the initial report. it is amazing how pertinent natural information is somehow overlooked by medical proponents. Also, their concern about being published in PubMed...I think it's more important to have all the facts lined up.
Barbara: TY. These are good people and they have two objectives — 1) accurately spell out what went wrong, and 2) get it published so the powers that be see it. Sometimes these objectives are in conflict.
It is impressive when information is assembled and converges from many independent sources and most point in the same general direction.
This seems a "Weight of Evidence" argument, the title for a circa 1950 book by a pioneering advocate for Bayesian statistics, I J Good, who served at Bletchley Park, near Cheltenham, England, while working on German enigma encoded communications, in concert with Alan Mathison Turing (Princeton PhD 1939), and others, including allies in the USA.
During the years of peak covid, my personal intuition was some news sources offered too much mis-information, whereas dissenting views, from people unknown to myself and likely to one another, expressed via the internet, seemed more reliable and credible, as if a human network of able scientists could countervail narrower narratives.
If this were so, then a recent report like the one you salute in your post today may further indicate this. Thanks for bringing it to the attention of others.
Francis: Thank you. IMO there are few matters in our lives that have had such an impact as the COVID-19 matter. The fact that almost all of the negatives were preventable just by government agencies and healthcare providers following Science, is a stunning realization.
The good thing is that this is entirely fixable — and it starts with fixing the Science curricula in K-12 education. It's as easy as that.
I find it strange that I have thus far offered the first and only comment as regards a great post.
Just to be provocative, I am unsure the solution is as simple as you suggest.
Also to be provocative, I shall offer a simple reason the entire story of covid had to end badly.
The idea that there could be a winter-time flu that can persist for years, including thru three or so summer seasons, is prima facie surreal.
If a disease epidemic is impossible, something is badly amiss with the mainstream narrative sold assiduously to the public.
During the summer of 2020, Indiana delayed the hallowed Indianapolis 500 auto race until September, when it was held before just a few thousand fans. This is impressive theater perhaps, but preposterous and surreal.
There are no respiratory epidemics of the common cold in hot central Indiana during summer. It is much too warm. Respiratory colds are only a problem during winter, if at all. They are highly survivable during winter, by most healthy persons, but risable during summer in Texas and Florida and the continental US. The politial narrative that such an epidemic could then extend thru several additional summers, as claimed, was far fetched in the extreme.
Therefore, any injections required to end an impossible epidemic were ominously prudent to avoid.
Francis: Yes, it is surprising that more readers are not commenting (although several have sent me personal emails of support).
My personal conclusion is that unscientific COVID policies caused something like 600,000 Americans to die needlessly — which is TWICE as many than died in World Ward II...
One would think that this would provoke an exceptional response regarding holding people accountable, etc. Instead there is a great concern about Epstein files, and other such matters that are about 1000 times less significant.
IMO this is yet another indication of what happens when most citizens have lost the ability to be a Critical Thinker — which shows that the Left's K-12 plan is working VERY well... In other words, the solution absolutely is as simple as I suggest. (Think Occam's razor!)
Maybe. I am not sure and prefer to neither agree nor disagree.
I shall counter-offer what a great information scientist used to term his "Axiom Number 1: people are different."
This may mean they each think differently based on retained memories and emotions, and other factors.
What if concerns about Epstein signify genuine and profound distrust of Mossad or of political corruption lying at the traitorous heart of a sick society? In which children are raped and politicians are corrupt beyond our moral comprehension?
And Epstein becomes a widely recognized symbol of this, since he either escapes or dies, despite being closely watched, while in prison? Such that everyday people can be enraged by this basic uncertainty about all that should instead be clear and ethical?
Epstein had a painting of Dubya playing with the Twin towers in his apartment, signifying too a society in which no one has been held accountable and even charged with a moral crime that ordered thousands of NY firefighters to climb stairs toward certain, planned death? The best scientific book about this moral nightmare had to be printed in communist China in 2010, because the Dubya-Obama administrations were still in power within the land of the free and the home of the brave?
If this were so, then can it be said that we the people should not be pissed about the mysteries of the presumably diabolical secret agent Epstein, so connected to a veritable who's who of US politicians and civic leaders of modern times?
Could Epstein even be a great and compelling symbol for that which so many of us find ethically repugnant and galling, yet the impotent DOJ seemingly knows nothing about Epstein's astounding disappearance, while under armed guard, within a prison?
Are people so illogical and not critical thinkers, to think the Epstein mystery is deeply wrong?
Crowds or group thoughts can get truths wrong, as select examples from histories teach. And other select examples show crowds can agree about truths and get them right. In the instance of Epstein, which is it, wrong or right?
Excellent post. Thank you!
SM: You're welcome. I see few other outlets that are conveying this powerful Report...
Thank you John. As one of the authors, it was hats off to Gerry Quinn and Ronan Connolly, who managed to keep all 37 authors on board and get it past rejections and full peer review. I think the suggestion of an executive summary is good and I will raise with Gerry and hopefully publish widely.
Readers here, please understand the reason for the inevitable compromises was to get it to a mainstream medical journal. Many of the authors have been writing on Substack etc assiduously, so this article was intended to broaden our reach.
I did a small coverage on HART here https://www.hartgroup.org/what-lessons-can-be-learned-from-the-management-of-the-covid-19-pandemic/
Dr. Jones: TY for your background info — which I agree with.
That said, I offered eight (8) constructive additional observations about this catastrophe.
I'd like to hear what you think about them, and also what you think about having a second, more comprehensive version of this important Report...
If I'm honest, I don't think I personally have the energy for a longer version but would point your readers to https://peoplesvaccineinquiry.co.uk/ and also https://northgroup.info/ where there is more. Agree we didn't cover Vitamin D and general aspects of healthy life-style etc to boost natural immunity. It always struck me that closing sports facilities was the maddest thing to do rather than using summer 2020 to try and get people more active and healthier. We did cover HCQ & Ivemectin and comparison with Remdesivir so I didn't understand your comment on Conclusion/Recommendation #4 as this was already covered in #3
Dr. Jones: I agree that your Report did actually reasonably address IVM — so I have deleted one of my comments (now only seven).
The Vitamin D matter is MUCH more than part of advocating a healthy lifestyle. The scientific studies have shown that Vitamin D is a more effective early treatment of COVID than the EUA approved drug Paxlovid! <https://c19science.info/FDA_Drug_Approvals2.htm> That is an ENORMOUSLY significant matter.
Absolutely. I have found that mentioning the downplaying of Vit D is a good discussion opener (NICE guidance still only recommends 400 units which was the bone dose and no way enough for a healthy immune system).
Also thanks for the link to your excellent drug comparison chart - I hadn't seen it before
Thank you for making us aware of that report and including the link. The report is damning, yet polite and of course, professional. I watched many caring, wonderful Drs. online explaining what was happening and recommending safe strategies prior to the injection and before YouTube pulled them off. That alone signaled to me the evil that was going to happen. Ivor Cummins (not a Dr, but a great statistician) presented graphs very early on about seasonality and how to explain excess deaths. I also heard Dr. Harvey Reisch (a contributor to this report) early on and he was another voice of knowledge and reason. I caught in August 2020 and did not panic. I knew how and who I got it from (friends). I also believed natural immunity was better than the injections and has been proven. That was the other lie they tried to "misinform" us of.
Linda: We are on the same page...
The additional information you provided aids in clarifying the initial report. it is amazing how pertinent natural information is somehow overlooked by medical proponents. Also, their concern about being published in PubMed...I think it's more important to have all the facts lined up.
Barbara: TY. These are good people and they have two objectives — 1) accurately spell out what went wrong, and 2) get it published so the powers that be see it. Sometimes these objectives are in conflict.
It is impressive when information is assembled and converges from many independent sources and most point in the same general direction.
This seems a "Weight of Evidence" argument, the title for a circa 1950 book by a pioneering advocate for Bayesian statistics, I J Good, who served at Bletchley Park, near Cheltenham, England, while working on German enigma encoded communications, in concert with Alan Mathison Turing (Princeton PhD 1939), and others, including allies in the USA.
During the years of peak covid, my personal intuition was some news sources offered too much mis-information, whereas dissenting views, from people unknown to myself and likely to one another, expressed via the internet, seemed more reliable and credible, as if a human network of able scientists could countervail narrower narratives.
If this were so, then a recent report like the one you salute in your post today may further indicate this. Thanks for bringing it to the attention of others.
Francis: Thank you. IMO there are few matters in our lives that have had such an impact as the COVID-19 matter. The fact that almost all of the negatives were preventable just by government agencies and healthcare providers following Science, is a stunning realization.
The good thing is that this is entirely fixable — and it starts with fixing the Science curricula in K-12 education. It's as easy as that.
I find it strange that I have thus far offered the first and only comment as regards a great post.
Just to be provocative, I am unsure the solution is as simple as you suggest.
Also to be provocative, I shall offer a simple reason the entire story of covid had to end badly.
The idea that there could be a winter-time flu that can persist for years, including thru three or so summer seasons, is prima facie surreal.
If a disease epidemic is impossible, something is badly amiss with the mainstream narrative sold assiduously to the public.
During the summer of 2020, Indiana delayed the hallowed Indianapolis 500 auto race until September, when it was held before just a few thousand fans. This is impressive theater perhaps, but preposterous and surreal.
There are no respiratory epidemics of the common cold in hot central Indiana during summer. It is much too warm. Respiratory colds are only a problem during winter, if at all. They are highly survivable during winter, by most healthy persons, but risable during summer in Texas and Florida and the continental US. The politial narrative that such an epidemic could then extend thru several additional summers, as claimed, was far fetched in the extreme.
Therefore, any injections required to end an impossible epidemic were ominously prudent to avoid.
Francis: Yes, it is surprising that more readers are not commenting (although several have sent me personal emails of support).
My personal conclusion is that unscientific COVID policies caused something like 600,000 Americans to die needlessly — which is TWICE as many than died in World Ward II...
One would think that this would provoke an exceptional response regarding holding people accountable, etc. Instead there is a great concern about Epstein files, and other such matters that are about 1000 times less significant.
IMO this is yet another indication of what happens when most citizens have lost the ability to be a Critical Thinker — which shows that the Left's K-12 plan is working VERY well... In other words, the solution absolutely is as simple as I suggest. (Think Occam's razor!)
Maybe. I am not sure and prefer to neither agree nor disagree.
I shall counter-offer what a great information scientist used to term his "Axiom Number 1: people are different."
This may mean they each think differently based on retained memories and emotions, and other factors.
What if concerns about Epstein signify genuine and profound distrust of Mossad or of political corruption lying at the traitorous heart of a sick society? In which children are raped and politicians are corrupt beyond our moral comprehension?
And Epstein becomes a widely recognized symbol of this, since he either escapes or dies, despite being closely watched, while in prison? Such that everyday people can be enraged by this basic uncertainty about all that should instead be clear and ethical?
Epstein had a painting of Dubya playing with the Twin towers in his apartment, signifying too a society in which no one has been held accountable and even charged with a moral crime that ordered thousands of NY firefighters to climb stairs toward certain, planned death? The best scientific book about this moral nightmare had to be printed in communist China in 2010, because the Dubya-Obama administrations were still in power within the land of the free and the home of the brave?
If this were so, then can it be said that we the people should not be pissed about the mysteries of the presumably diabolical secret agent Epstein, so connected to a veritable who's who of US politicians and civic leaders of modern times?
Could Epstein even be a great and compelling symbol for that which so many of us find ethically repugnant and galling, yet the impotent DOJ seemingly knows nothing about Epstein's astounding disappearance, while under armed guard, within a prison?
Are people so illogical and not critical thinkers, to think the Epstein mystery is deeply wrong?
Crowds or group thoughts can get truths wrong, as select examples from histories teach. And other select examples show crowds can agree about truths and get them right. In the instance of Epstein, which is it, wrong or right?
Francis: I am not disputing that the Epstain matter is not problematic.
What I am saying is that 600,000 Americans dieing needlessly is enormously more significant — so it should proportionally be given more attention.