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There is a lot to like about her philosophical presentation of society but in the end it seems to be nothing more than another promise of a utopia built upon the roots of the human intellect. Basically it's the philosophy of existentialism--another ism devoid of God, just as are Marxism, socialism, and communism. I think it is just another attempt by the fallen angels to push their religion of Satanism--now renamed Humanism--on our society.

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Clare: There is some merit to your view. I was not endorsing everything Ayn says, but rather supporting what she wrote about Critical Thinking. She is spot on there...

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I think her first novel the somewhat autobiographical " We the Living " is her most poignant

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John-with thanks…I received Rand’s writing about 2-3 years into Westwind. I shared it with key employees & customers that wanted to listen. The book is worth a re read…though Galt’s speech deserves editing. Lots of shortening. I fully agreed then with the whole point…fell in love with Dagney of course…the idea of self reliance is spot on…BUT IMO…one must add the Grace of God…after 30 successful years, I sold Westwind and now a deeply (as deep as possible for this fallen man) committed Christian/Catholic. I encourage people constantly, especially the younger folks…put your head down, stop bitching and get to work…HARD.

We are in troubled times, my friend.

edk

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E&S: TY for sharing your interesting experiences. As I wrote above, what I am emphasizing here is Ayn's important emphasis of Critical Thinking.

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Critical thinking is rare in science too.

It’s the schooled daze training. We receive information and are tested on remembering it correctly. There is no push back from high school to university. No challengers to the material, all must be swallowed whole. A’s for regurgitation.

Then peer review ensures the funding and publishing colours within the narrative. If something gets messy and spills over the line, the phrase more research is needed to verify. This is used to deflect and minimise.

Dis-ease research organisations raise millions and never find a cure. If they did it would put them out of business.

However, if one looks at the foundations of THE SCIENCE, at their theories and facts, they are often sitting on sand NOT rock. And scrutiny reveals FRAUD.

This review needs to be done by the uninvested, the common people. There is a lot of work to do. We must throw out the weeds/fraud. The dark ages must finish with enlightenment and this is called Due Diligence.

My example: we breathe air not oxygen. I’ve logically dismissed the gaseous exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide as a fraud. We are not machines using gases of combustion and exhaust. Our lungs are rehydrating the red blood cells as they pass through the alveoli capillaries with salt water. Hydration not oxygenation underpins our physiology.

Hydration equals SALT plus water.

Restriction of salt has caused the rise in chronic dis-ease. Dehydration or hyponatremia (same same) is the primary assault that begins every dis-ease.

Click on my blue icon to read how I came to form my assertions.

Science remains the Wild West and there is much to scrutinise.

On the other side of this re-evaluation - there will be knowledge to return our free might. Critical thinking and analysis is our strength. It’s how we solve problems.

The free dumb era must become a lesson we all learnt. We must understand receiving information without challenge is dumb. It allows the sickness industry to profit from suffering and death.

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Jane: A true scientist is a person who instinctively asks a lot of questions: Who? Why? When? Where? etc. At its core that is what Critical Thinking is: don't take things at face value, ask questions.

Regretfully many scientists today are NOT true scientists, despite what their diploma says. Instead they are more interested in advancing political agendas (e.g., renewable energy). Real scientists let the chips fall where they may, and are willing to accept what is the Truth, even if it goes against their pre-disposition. Regretfully there are fewer scientists — real scientists — who do that today.

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I go further because if the information scientists rely upon to make pertinent decisions is faulty, they will not be able to solve the most important problems.

Going back to the basics and reviewing the assumptions theories rest upon is hugely important. This is never done.

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I have read all of Ayn Rand's material, including reading Atlas Shrugged 3 times through in detail. Her use of archetypes is as good as anyone. I also find that her philosophy - Objectivism - seems to be the only philosophy that does not contain formal internal contradictions. Amazingly, the "Professional Philosopher" cabal likes to reject her out of had because she was not "formally trained". To this I ask the Socratic question: Who conferred a PhD in Philosophy to Aristotle? All the Any Rand haters can kiss my Objectivist behind!

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Important points for our nation, especially now. Challenge lies in who teaches k-12 critical thinking. Increasingly educators cannot tell true from false nor right from wrong leading to absurdities like, "You can choose your pronoun," change your sex, or "We have to save democracy in America." There is a lot to be said for homeschooling.

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Many good people seem to have no idea that one can arrive at a moral system outside of religious dictates. These ideas are important and timely.

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I want to order a T shirt that says, "Who is John Galt." Just haven't done it yet. Atlas Shrugged was probably one of the most influential books I read in college. More people need to read it, imo.

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JH: Indeed. Along with the New Testament.

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Interestingly, Objectivism rationally arrives at many of the same conclusions that Jesus provided regarding how humans should relate to each other. I also not that Objectivist Virtue is exactly the same as Stoic Virtues (Stoic School) with the addition of REASON as the number 1 virtue, above the other 4 (Justice, Wisdom, Courage, and Temperance). Note also that Jesus was teaching Stoic Virtue 350 years after the Stoics developed the school.

One important distinction is that Any Rand claims (correctly, IMHO) that CHARITY is the OPPOSITE of Justice. This is because Justice requires that people earn what they are given. Charity is not earned. She does not say that Charity is wrong (say in the sense of Jesus), but that it is not Justice. Even Jesus said "cast not your pearls before swine", and Paul says "He who does not work shall not eat."

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